Overreacting. I would like to know how many of the River Hills Residents -bought their homes before the bridge over the Milwaukee River was built and the bridge over the interstate and before the Glendale Market -one man had a heartattack on that road and there was an accident, that could have happened on any road -everyone tries to jog when there is less traffic, that is common sense -if anything make that road wider to accomodate Jim (the mailman) and any other truck that pulls over on that road -perhaps move mailboxes to the same side of the road as the houses -you choose to live there you can choose to move -you live on the interstate you already get pollution from vehicles so that is not a reason to close the road. If anything you are forcing people to drive further to accomodate the what twenty River Hills houses if that, and you are creating much more pollution. I agree that Jimmy Johns drivers go too quickly but there is always a cop on that road. You cannot block Glendale residents from getting to the high school or the grocery store. Bender is not big enough and the lights are horrible at Port Washington and Bender. Prehaps we should all pull out on Good Hope which is already huge and that speedlimit is very high. Plesae do not allow them to do this.

Why not just post a River Hills squad car there more often and consider it a "revenue opportunity?" It would teach the regular travelers to drive legally at 25mph or make them choose to use an alternate route on their own. Or, maybe the RH Police Dept could rent one of those large electronic signs for a few weeks that tell drivers how fast their car is going, in order to get the car to slow down to the speed limit. Changes in land use and traffic volume happen. That is the kind of stuff that makes some people move out of a neighborhood, or into one. I think that the traffic sign that those residents put up that limits morning Nicolet traffic, makes them think that they can keep the rest of us out of their little idyllic world. Maybe Glendale should tell those residents that they can't drive on Glendale streets because they add too much traffic impact and might cause an accident in Glendale!

NO WAY! Do these folks not need or want firefighters and EMTs to respond on the fastest route possible? It will be a lot harder for emergency vehicles to come to their rescue if the road is closed. Green Tree Road should stay open for this reason. I think these folks need to quit their whining. If they don't like heavy traffic, they should sell their homes and buy a new one on a less-traveled road. This is like disliking loud noise, but still moving next to an noisy airport...and then petitioning to get their airport moved because it's too loud for you. Get real!

We have lived on W. Green Tree Road for twelve years and our observation based on driving the street several times daily is that traffic has increased immensely since the opening of Glendale Market and that drivers are more careless. Try driving the road at the posted speed limited, 25 miles per hour, and see how many tailgaters you get. Just this morning, I was driving the speed limit and a man in a van passed me. He had a young girl in the back of the van. The road is used by bicyclists, joggers, walkers, and drivers and was not intended to carry such traffic. It has developed from a relative quiet residential street to a thoroughfare between two strip malls and an increasingly used shortcut among three major arteries of the city: Green Bay, Good Hope, and Port Washington. If the road remains open as a convenient shortcut and you use it, please drive more carefully.

Close it. It is a cut-through for those too lazy to go to Good Hope Rd or Bender Rd (myself included.) If your only solution is to plop a cop on the Rd 24/7 that is not using your head. The residents safety is first and foremost. I know I would not want cars whizzing by my home at the speeds I see people at on Green Tree. I will happily drive 30 seconds out of my way if it means people are safer. Nicolet athletes run on that road, cyclists use it all the time, there is a walking path there, it is NOT a Good Hope Rd. Close it. As for the guy saying this is some "Idyllic" area, haha, my street in Glendale is FAR more serene and quiet than this. I take the road to the pick n save and get tailgated and passed. Real safe. If River Hills has any sense they will close it and for those residents sake I hope they do. PLEASE CLOSE.

DON'T BE SELFISH, IF THE TRAFFIC BUGS YOU-MOVE!

I am one of the residents on Green Tree Road that support its closure. When we moved here several years ago, it was a quieter street, not much different from the rest of the community's residential streets. However, since the development of the shopping center, it is now used as a major route connecting Good Hope Road, Green Bay Road and Port Washington Road - one avoids numerous stoplights using Green Tree Road. As a result, despite the 25 mph speed limit and hours of police monitoring, most drivers continue to speed up and down Green Tree Road heedless to the bicyclists, children, dog-walkers, runners and homes. Both Nicolet High School and Glen Hills Middle School use Green Tree Road for their cross-country teams to run along. This was not a problem several years ago, now I am concerned for the kids safety. This is not just a noise and aesthetic issue - it is a safety issue!

If you don't like it move? That is your solution? It is a SHORTCUT, plain and simple. Take it out and end it. Safety trumps speed in this case. River Hills gave you the land to put up that shopping center up on, the least Glendale could do it let us who live in River Hills have a safe and quiet community. I hope our Village government moves quickly on this and closes the road as they said they would at the last meeting. As for emergency access, talk to every other resident that lives between County Line, Brown Deer, Good Hope and Bender and you'll see it won't effect much. In fact everyone who lives on Green Tree agrees, CLOSE IT NOW. Don't be lazy like Tim said, go around.

Have you ever tried to access Nicolet high school at 7am. With that side closed traffic would overflow onto Port road, causing major problems for every involved.

How about speed bumps to slow and discourage traffic? Chicago and its suburbs use them quite effectively. The street could remain open then at both ends for emergency vehicles. The short-cut people and the speed demons will find another route.

Make it green! Close it to cars. Keep it open to walkers/runners/cyclists. Shoppers and students would have increased motivation to walk or bike. Everyone would be safer.

Has anyone thought about speed bumps?

This is the dumbest idea I have ever heard. Just because there is more traffic now than there was ten years ago these cry babies want the street closed. I have a brilliant idea. How about closing every street in the county that has an increase in traffic. This street is so poorly maintained it needs to be repaved from Port Rd. all the way west to the end at Sidney. Has anybody from the city driven on it lately? Obviously not.

I live in the area of Green Bay & Green Tree. I moved there because I could go straight down the street to Nicolet, Pick N Save, Port Road, etc. If the reason for closing the street is because there have been accidents, an increase in traffic and pollution, and some speeders, then lets close ALL the streets in the county. I also walk and bike through here. If your concern is for the walkers and the runners, perhaps they should use the sidewalk instead of the street. If your concern is for the bicyclists, maybe they should be ticketed for riding in groups instead of single file as we were all taught. And, if they're speeding, ticket them for that, too! Lori, did River Hills really "GIVE" the land for the development or sell it? In either case, I'm sure the government of River Hills was able to foresee this result? Maybe the needs of the many from the revenue far outweighed the needs of the few residents on the road who are inconvenienced!

I don't agree with closing the street. But if we have no choice, my suggestion is to close it on the EAST end of Green Tree. This will make the residents living on the street forced to also use Good Hope and Bender as a way of getting to Nicolet H.S. and their now convenient shopping center!

Well I think for the sake of safety something must be done. I saw 2 18 wheelers come down that road today in a 30 min timeframe. This road is meant for residential traffic. Either the police don't have the time or the resources but this road is an accident waiting to happen. The fact that so many bike and walk/run on this road makes it a BIG safety concern. According to what I hear there were 100+ at that board meeting and safety was the #1 concern. For the sake of safety, close it. By the way, if you look at a map you will see Green Tree is an anomaly in that it piggy backs Good Hope. There is no rational excuse that Green Tree is a "necessity" when you have Good Hope with 3 lanes and a 40 mph speed limit one block over. It's maybe a 30 sec trip around to not take Green Tree and I would certainly hope that could be done for the sake of safety.

This is rediculous, I realize that people don't like the increase in traffic, but guess what, it comes with the territory of a growing population. Closing the road is not a viable option. If people are speeding, do something about it, put up a speed camera, or put in some speed bumps. My guess is that residence are less worried about pedestrian safety than their own property values.

That would be a great argument IF it was population growth that was causing the problem. That is not the problem. Obviously we who live on that street are concerned about our property values but the safety concern outweighs that. The death that occured on this street 4 months ago should alarm all people as to the amount of walkers/runners/bikers that use this road. This is, indeed, a HUGE safety concern. You may not see it as you cruise by at 45mph but we, who live here every day, do. The village is unincorporated for a reason, to keep our village a peaceful place to live. If Glendale wants to expand and grow that is fine but then Glendale residents will have the inceased tax revenue and the increased traffic, not us. Most of us moved to River Hills BECAUSE it was a safe village community. Glendale's commercial growth is taking that from us. For these reasons and many, many more, we say CLOSE IT.

As a homeowner on Green Tree Road in River Hills, I am convinced that the section of Green Tree Road that runs west from N. Port Washington to River Road must be closed. I have seen the amount of traffic on the street steadily increase over the past several years for what are obvious reasons. As a direct result, I have witnessed several accidents, one of which was an incredible tragedy that resulted in the loss of two lives. I am certain that city planners didn’t intend for Green Tree to become a shortcut for countless cars, work trucks, trailers or semis. And I would hope that there was no intention for the road to become a litter zone. Both, however, have happened. People have stated that Green Tree must remain open as it is a key thoroughfare for emergency vehicles. I will argue that emergency crews have several alternative routes using Bender and Jean Nicolet that are better suited for them. It sure seems that the main argument to keep Green Tree open lies in the closing being an inconvenience to non-residents who use the street as a shortcut. And such an argument prompts me to ask whether anyone really sees convenience as more important than safety.

With all due respect to Glendale, according to the village of River Hills board they have absolutly no say in this matter. That also includes Glendale officials. Many options are been looked into by residents of Green Tree Road and by the village engineer.

All the residents whining about the strip mall are also people going there for sushi, groceries, haircuts, dry cleaning, videos...and the list goes on. Grow up! Just because you are a River Hills resident doesn't mean the world revolves around you. And for the person or persons who made comments about the fatal accident 4 months ago....speed had nothing to do with it. The driver had a medical condition and might have been impaired. It was an unfortunate accident that could have happened anywhere. Closing the road will do nothing. Learn to live with it.

I guess I really don't understand why the residents of Green Tree Rd want to take the most drastic solution first. Can the existing speed limit not be enforced? What if the fine was increased and a prominent sign posted? I'd wager a hefty fine would slow people down! I think adding the stop signs at Jean Nicolet and Green Tree is a very good idea. Can we please try taking one step at a time? I use that road frequently, but obey the speed limit.

No way, gross overreaction! Better marked traffic signs, pedestrian signs and street lines, more stop signs should be the solution. The tragic accident that happened was not the result of speeding, but medically caused, and should not be an argument for River Hills closing the street. Glendale has invested enough money and resources with an unfair advantage to River Hills as it is - the bridge and emergency services alike. I agree with Elizabeth...accidents happen on every road. Another solution, move mailboxes to same side of road. As far as litter, do they think there isn't litter on every street or in every park or natural setting.

As a resident of the group of homes just south of Green Tree, the group River Hill has so conviently ignored, I feel a need to speak out. First and foremost, to use last April accident as a catalyst for this is shameful. I knew Bob Litzow, the man never would never speed down that road. And he didn't this time. If the other victim had been on the sidewalk, he may well be alive today. Second, I've seen some of GTR residents up at the very strip mall they speak of. I listened to some of you agreeing to the building of it, back in the day. I've seen very little litter myself. Besides who can tell if that beer can in the ditch came from Pick and Save? The residents of GTR also contribute to the litter problem by not picking up new phone books and advertising papes left by your mailboxes. I've also seen some you speeding down GTR, so don't place all the blame on "outsiders." I firmly believe that when the construction at Good Hope is done, traffic patterns will change and decrease. As for semis driving down the road, they shouldn't be, so call the cops! Would you not call the cops is you were witnessing a breakin? Use your brains. To not care about the respond time of emergency vehicles is careless disregard for life. The lives of thirty-five houselholds that depend on those EMT's. This idea smacks of elitism.

It is 4:24pm. I am sitting here writing this as I am watching the road. We have a "speed trailer" up now as you travel east on GTR. The speed limit is 25 with a BIG YELLOW FLASHING BILLBOARD saying 35...32...37...29...32...41. Those are the last 6 people who came up on the trailer. Mind you, they SEE the trailer, they know they are speeding, but they DON'T slow down. Now I know all of you that have written on this fine forum never speed but I would URGE you to speak with your neighbors who do because they are like the 3 year old with their hands in the cookie jar. It is about to slam closed on them. We, as a group, are working deligently with our board to close our street because of the safety issue I mentioned above. We have given much thought to all of the suggestions and we are leaning towards the "Servite Woods" option. It would allow GTR to stay open to emergency vehicles while closing it to through traffic. Unlike some have suggested, we didn't just "jump to this solution." We have been calling the police, calling Jimmy John's, calling Pick 'n Save, contacting the Nicolet School Board, and their response? "Take it up with River Hills!" Well now we are "using our brains" and closing our road. You can thank those among you who failed to obey the rules of society. Just so you know, it will take us more time than anyone to get places once it is closed but we are working to keep emergency access open and we are very concerned about everyones' safety, not just our own. If anyone is in the mood for a good scare, come and plop a chair down by our sign and take a look at what we deal with DAILY.

What about installing 1 or 2 'pinch points'? Pinch Points are sections where only one car can pass at a time. This will slow down all vehicles, but allow everyone to use the street.

Closing the street will not only cause problems for many residents, it poses a great deal of concern for fire and rescue services. People in River Hills are only thinking selfishly about themselves and are thumbing there noses at neighboring communities. The gentleman that was quoted in the newspaper regarding the horrific accident that took the lives of two people ignored to understand that it was a health situation that created the drastic accident, not a speeder. To the River Hills leaders....don't let a few residents dictate for the majority.

It would be nice if legislators would make judgements based on some objectively measured and statistically significant data (that they share) as opposed to hearsay and anecdotes. If speed and safety are a significantly more severe problem than other roads (they almost certainly are not based on accident-caused-by-excessive-speed frequency), it seems to me that people will drive more slowly if the road is narrower, either entirely, or at one or two points. Wide roads generally lead to faster driving, regardless of the posted speed limit. Non-drivers would also be safer if the residents would trim their shrubs back from the sidewalk, thus allowing them to pass each other on that sidewalk. (I had to dash into the road on my run the other day because two people were walking on the sidewalk and even they were walking single file.) Full disclosure: As a runner through the park and around Gree Tree, I would benefit from increased peace and quiet on that road, so I wouldn't be sad to see it closed. However, I wouldn't vote for closing it because my risk is low and it would cause a significant (cumulative) inconvenience to many other people who have helped fund that road.

The problem is Green Tree Road is an arterial street and it's designed as nothing more than a lane. Littering and speeding are pretty common problems for those types of streets as they are in almost any urban area. Despite it park preserve aesthetic, that part of Green Tree Road is a dense urban area. It seems that the best approach is to wait out the construction on Good Hope to see if anything changes after its completion. Any trucks in there need to be fined heavily. The police need to monitor the speeding. If the problems persist, the road should be redesigned for its new load and traffic flow. If at last resort Green Tree is deemed to be closed, then an equally radical measure such as extending Jean Nicolet to Good Hope needs to be considered. Shutting down Green Tree wouldn't solve what at its core is a traffic management problem, it just moves it somewhere else.

What is it with River Hills residents? Your not the only people in the world? I agree that some people drive too fast on that road and I'm all for stop signs, stop lights, round abouts, and/or speed bumps if it will help. I see many of you walking in the morning to go to the coffee shop, blockbuster, and grocery store...so you use the facility. As a glendale resident, and someone who enjoys living in the northshore area (i've lived in whitefish bay and shorewood as well) - I'm often dissappointed by some of the attitudes that I come across.

I am a runner and have been running on Green Tree for 15 years. I am well aware of the GTR problem and anyone who travels on this road or its walking path will know what I mean when I say it has become unsafe. In fact, I don't often run on that road anymore because of the speed and amount of traffic. I find it interesting that they are pursuing an option that would allow it to stay open to emergency vehicles but close it to through traffic. I think that would be awesome. I love running on that road and would like to feel safe doing so again.

Ridiculous. I went to Nicolet High School many years ago and that road is vital to the area. Facility, staff and students need options to make it to the school every day on time and to shut down a road because a few people complain about increase in traffic is bogus. I know I barely made it to school on time junior and senior years because traffic was already crazy 15 minutes before the bell rang. Closing the road would increase morning commute and make people already more frustrated then they are. I as well recall jogging down that street for cross country or track practice, and I am still alive. Just like every other residential street in the city people walk/jog/bike but pedestrians need to be aware of their surrounds as well, not just the drivers. Can you believe some streets don’t have sidewalks which force people to walk on busy streets!! That’s a true safety issue. Your street is lucky to have one. The city of River Hills and Glendale’s businesses are growing and its time to keep up with the change. Just think when someone decides to open up a business where that worn down restaurant used to be, traffic will sure increase as well again. As a side note, if your streets don’t have fire hydrants and your street is in need of emergency and the residents protested like it’s the 70’s and get their way for the road closure. Then they have NO right in suing the village of River Hills, Glendale or Milwaukee because of lack of easy access to their property to prevent death or crimes. Easy access to the school, shopping and freeway would lure me into wanting to consider moving into that area. Closing the road and limiting access just pushed away future home buyers once those residents decide to leave the area. Speed bumps and stop signs are the answer.

Well, once again, all the facts are screwed up. Jeanette, as have been stated in several posts already, we are working on closing the street AND allowing emergency access. This has been done many times before in our area and works well. As far as when you jogged on Green Tree, if it was more than 1 year ago, it was MUCH safer than it is today. You also bring up a very common misconception that River Hills is a city like Glendale. We are a Village that is unincorporated. We are responsible for 0 business growth because we do not allow businesses in our Village. You receive the tax revenue if we choose to go to your businesses, not us. Lastly, you state that "limiting access just pushed away future home buyers," yeah right. A SAFER, quieter street is what just about everyone WANTS for their neighborhood! If you want access to shops I suggest you move above Bayshore mall. Yeah, just what our street needs, a stop sign and speed bump every 10 feet. That would be a fun drive home every day. I suspect much of this debate is Glendale residents upset that we have the power to change our situation. I don't think anyone, regardless of where you live, would like to see the changes we have seen in the last year.

I think the Green Tree Road homeowners should be required to cut down all bushes and brush that abut the walking path and driveways in order to reduce the potential for pedestrian or motor vehicle accidents. Not only is the brush a hindrance for a vehicle attempting to enter the roadway, but oncoming traffic cannot see them either. Oh....is someone's precious privacy being threatened??? I guess that's the price you need to pay if you're really concerned about safety. Mmmmm, maybe you really just want the rest of us to use a road in someone else's front yard--like those people who happen to live on Bender or Jean Nicolet.

Do some people in River Hills just think of themselves and what can increase their own property values? Come on, everyone on GTR needs to relax a little bit. Sure there is increased traffic that is due to many factors, the biggest factor is the High School, second would be the new shopping center that replaced the dilapidated nursing home that was there(which was bring down property values), and third would be the construction on Good Hope. I want to ask the residents of this road, what do you want people to do when the DOT wants to reconstruct the bridges over 43 over the next few years? What is going to happen to all of the traffic when they shut down GTR’s bridge? Did anyone ever think about that? So if the select River Hills residents get their way and GTR is closed to traffic, and the GTR Bridge over 43 is shut down how are the students, faculty, and residents of this area suppose to get to Nicolet? Do you really expect all of that traffic to be funneled onto an already extremely busy Bender Road? I personally think most people who live in River Hills, need to get off of their pedestal and realize that this affects more than just them.

Well this poll question was just about what I thought it would be. Glendale residents who use the road basically attacking River Hills residents who live on the road. Glendale residents might want to ask themselves if there is reason why 100% of the residents on this road support its closure. It must be that we are all just elitist snobs. I've never really thought of myself as an elitist until the last few weeks as people call us that. Bottom line, this road closure thing has been done 2 times before in River Hills in the last 10 years, once at Dean Circle (for the same reasons) and once at Lodgewood Rd. Yep, people will yell and scream and claim traffic will explode all around us but guess what? 3 years ago the Pick 'n Save was functioning just fine and the school got all the students there on time and we didn't have the problems we have today. I suspect everyone will go back to using the routes they used 3 years ago and life will move forward as it always does. I think Glendale residents should relax a bit as well and know that if we do get the closure, whatever the solution, emergency vehicles will be able to get through and bikers and runners will have a safe place once again. I would love to see how you in Glendale would react to a 5 fold increase in traffic on YOUR road including littering, noise, etc. True, we DO pay more for our homes here. That does not make us "elitists." The fact that we bought homes in River Hills because of the quality of life in River Hills means we get to complain to a Board that listens to our concerns and acts on our behalf.

Timothy, a few observations for you. What other comments did you expect in the forum? It is a place in which people are entitled to voice their opinions. I'm sorry you feel as if they were/are not agreeable with you. But that's what democracy is all about. Also, are you sure that all homeowners on Green Tree want the closure of the road? Also if you would re-read my post you will see that I said the IDEA of closing GTR that is elitist. I get the feeling that all on GTR would cut off the foot to treat an ingrown toenail. In other words, all reasonalbe solutions should be tried before the road is closed. AND the Village of River Hills should at least ask the residents of Green Tree Valley how this would effect them. If for so no reason then common courtesy.

Timothy...how do we in Glendale look from way up there? Let's be realistic. Closing a road to make 10-15 residents happy is unebelievably selfish. Knee jerk reaction after a fatal accident....every road has speeders, do we need to close Silver Spring Dr and Bender Rd. too. Yes, you have a village board that listens to your whining, but look at the whole picture and not just yourselves up their in the clouds of River Hills.

I am ok with closing the "River Hills" road if the River Hills folks stay out of Glendale! I suspect you use the Shopping Center, Bayshore and every other business that Glendale has to offer. It is also true you use the school, library, fire and other facilities that are in Glendale. If you want to be the elitists, then create your own shopping centers, schools, library and stay out of Glendale. Btw if you have never went above the speed limit in my neighborhood, thanks! I agree with the shame on you as well for using the medical accident as a reason to close the road. I feel sorry for two people dying but it had NOTHING to do with your whinning about a few more cars on your street.

Robert, did you know that no sales tax ends up in the local community where a business is located? Only property taxes benefit the local community of the business.

Robert of RH, do your homework. RH is incorporated. If it wasn't you wouldn't be paying taxes. If a village/town is UNincorporated it cannot tax you. Unincorporated entities have no power over land or residents at all. And ACM is right. We gain nothing from your patronage. And you cannot tell me that there is no business in RH. I'll bet there are plenty of people running businesses out of their homes. And who is getting that business tax? Just saying.

I live in Fox Point, and I think it would be great to have it closed. However, I don't know if the villages and Glendale will be able to agree on that drastic a step. Perhaps putting some speed bumps on the east side of Green Tree as well as on the River Hills side would make the street safer for everyone.

Well I never said anything about sales tax but f you think Glendale is not profiting from adding businesses to Glendale you are dead wrong. In regards to the "unincorporated" remark, you are right, I misspoke. However, straight from the Village website, "No businesses are allowed in the Village." This gets us away from the point though. The fact is the speeding situation on GTR remains the same and is worsening with Nicolet back in session. I suggest that we open up the Ironwood / Elmtree entrance to Nicolet High School as another entrance option, it would be a good solution to the fact that currently there are only 2 entrances to the school and we all know that NHS is buying up property to expand in that direction anyway. For the time being It might just take a little of the pressure off GTR.

Sure, close it. And shut down I43 too. There too much traffic there also. They don't respect the speed limit either. Or, we could just ban everything but Volvo's BMW's and Mercedes. Keep the rif raf with their Escalades off of Green Tree! Or, close it so that light rail tracks can be built there. Just the thought of that sends a tingle down my legs!

How about making the roadway one way EASTBOUND, at least for those two blocks that take it over the Freeway? That way, the residents can exit their subdivision, and keep the problem of people coming FROM the Pick and Save strip mall driving through as a shortcut. And, more importantly,when fire and police have to use the road, they simply turn on the red lights, the eastbound traffic yields to them, and they are saved! No cost to close the road, and the residents are only inconvienced HALF the time. Try living on a road like REGENT, whereas whenever the North Shore Fire Department responds in the entire North Shore South of Brown Deer-- the NSFD now uses it as it main through way...even for return trips! (I can see it during an emergency, but on their return trip from food shopping for the boys dinners from PICK and SAVE daily?) why dont they use the main PORT WASHINGTON?

Being a highschool student at Nicolet, going around green tree road to get to school would take an extra time and is very far out of a lot of kids way. its a far way on either side to get to Port Washington and would inevitably cause many kids to be late to school. Please don't close it during school days or school hours

Keep it open. If closed roads every time someone complained about traffic we wouldn't be able to get anywhere. The same argument could be made for Lake Drive or Port Washington Road. Hey, let's just close I-43. Traffic has increased on that over the years and there have been far more accidents (and probably speeders) then on Green Tree.

It is ridiculous to propose closing this road simply because of traffic. Roads are built for traffic. Just because of speeding no one has the right to close a road, considering that obviously if so many people use it, it must be an important road. It would become a tremendous inconvience to the residents of Clovernook. Furthermore, this logic is entirely flawed. If everyone who did not like traffic petitioned for their road to be closed, every road in the county should be contested. Get over yourselves.

Don't close the road. Accidents happen every day due to medical issues. When your number is up, it's up. Wrong place, wrong time. As for the safety of walkers and joggers - you can be sure many are not just walking and jogging up and down this short stretch of road - they will need to venture into "perilous territory" at some point. A child was killed some years back on my quiet residential street and a four-way stop was placed at the corner. We also have 25mph posted. Drivers consistently blow through the stops and speed at least 40mph. I don't like it, can I have my street closed too?? I agree with Justin - speed cameras and a ticket in the mail! Give the stop signs a chance. Please do not inconvenience the many for the selfish wishes of the very few. Why should we concede to these "crybabies" (WAH, WAH). We all have to put up with idiot drivers breaking the law everywhere, not just on GT. Deal with it.

Before you blame the new Pick N Save as an attraction that generates traffic here...think about how the same people who go there to buy food for the last 40 yearsprobably used Green Tree Rd to get to the old Sentry on Port Rd, or the Kohl's on Santa Monica, or even to the old Green Tree Market in the 70's that occupied the property before Kohl's. And don't forget about the old Kohl's at Port and Silver Spring--now that was quite a destination for quality in the 70's and 80's. People had to but their food somewhere, and they weren't all driving on Good Hope or Green Bay to get to those grocery stores. Other than the original Gold's Pick N Save on Green Bay or on Teutonia, and the still existing Sendik's in WFB, there wasn't anywhere else to get your food. People west of Port Rd have been traversing Green Tree Road with regularity for at least 40 or 50 years to patronize local businesses in Fox Point and Glendale --especialy to buy food. Do the residents of Green Tree Rd really think Pick N Save is a newly invented destination on a new route for groceries for the North Shore?? Wait until the Good Hope Rd construction is over, and traffic volume should normalize to previous levels. If the residents are still complaining about volume, then I want to see where some body or some entity told them that Green Tree Road was anything but a public thoroughfare connecting the existing north/south cross streets that have existed since at least the 1950's.

Did we all forget about the 500 bed multi-story nursing home that occupied the exact spot where our neighborhood Pick N Save was recently built. As I recall it had a huge parking lot that was necessary for visitors, vendors, and a couple hundred employees who manned the institution around the clock. I think the nursing home was built there in the late 1960's. I remember voluterring there in the 1970's, and having at least 1 relative spend there final days there in the 1980's. I bet some of the employees of that nusring home, visitors and vendors, too, probably drove to and from that location using the very section of Green Tree Rd that is the subject of closure now. Oh, and what about the liquor store that was vacated for the Glendale Market development?? As I recall, it was thriving. I'm sure some of those patrons used Green Tree Rd from Range Line to Barnett Lane to get to and fro. My point is that Green Tree Road has always been a well used road and important thoroughfare for residents of the general North Shore. People need to stop talking about Green Tree Road as though it is a recent discovery for everyone with a driver's license in 53217 and 53209.

Leave it the way it is