Mo's Irish Pub has proven to be a popular gathering place in Wauwatosa and pays a significant amount in taxes. But its success has increased parking and other problems in the neighborhood, especially after closing time.
Has Mo's been good or bad for Tosa? Let us know what you think!
(54) Read All Responsesmo's may be good for tosas tax base, but it stinks when it comes to the pain and suffering that it has done to a nice quiet neighborhood.
Mo's is just trying to get the cars off the street and into a parking lot to make the streets safer for everyone. It seems to me the neighbors would welcome the parking lots so there aren't cars driving up and and down the streets in search of parking.
Would the neighbor's be happier looking at the closed up overgrown parking lot that was the Ground Round? Or the ratty cheap motel on Bluemound Ave that attracted nothing but trash? Mo's is a great addition to the neighborhood, the owner is a good citizen who wants to improve the area, run his business and work with the neighbors.
I think it is great for the city. If you live in the neighborhood, it has a to be a little inconvenient, but really, aside from a couple of public urination issues, have their been any major problems? I live near the restaurant/bar and love the ability to walk over when I'm in the mood. It always seems to have a decent crowd and they seem to keep the area clean and neat. The bouncers remind people to respect the neighborhood when they leave. Those living in the area were there when there was a Ground Round and a Pizza Hut in the neighborhood. Those who moved in after, knew there was Mo's. It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that businesses attract customers and their cars. Now if they would only do something about their beer prices. The neighborhood needs a nice corner tap!
There was a Pizza Hut and a Ground Round there for years, Industry right down the block and a train that runs right by as well.... I can remember parking was bad then...MOs has done a lot to preserve the peace in the area and is willing to do more...they are good business people.
I think it is good for Tosa. It's a thriving business and creates jobs and taxes for the city. It seems as if they are bending over backwards to work with the residents in the neighborhood. having more room for parking would keep people off of the residential streets.
Obviously the individuals who think MO's is an "attraction" are NOT nearby Wauwatosa Residents or TAX PAYERS. I cannot believe that occassional public urination is an acceptable consequence of a BAR not a restaurant in a residential neighborhood. Pehaps when someone is killed or mamed by a drunk driver they may change their perspcetive. Yes, MO's is an attraction and a DISTRACTION - he should have put this place in his own backyard NOT ours. Ground Round and Pizza Hut both accommodated their customers with adequate parking. Their EMPLOYEES NEVER parked on our streets that were paid for by the existing residents. We might have no objections to the new parking lot if MO's EMPLOYEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET OFF THE STREETS AND PARK IN THE LOTS TOO!!! Can MO promise this as he has made and broken all of his previous commitments to the neighborhood? The opinions of non-residents and non-tax payers really mean nothing in this poll - because they have NO VESTED interest in the neighborhood.
In these hard economic times it is good to have a thriving business in Wauwatosa. The area around Mo's has been a commercial area for many years. While some business' in the past have not generated as much traffic the nearby home owners purchased their homes knowing they were near a busy area. I live near North Ave and an increase in traffic and parking on our streets is a given with the nearby businesses. It is great to have a thriving business and a business owner who has made attempts to help the situation. Mo's is great for Tosa.
Mo's Irish Pub is one of the crown jewels and go-to destinations of Wauwatosa. It's popularity brings people to Tosa and results in an overall positive economic impact to our city. But even more than that, Johnny V and his team are outstanding community advocates. They have listened and reacted positively to the issues of the neighborhood by acquiring space for additional parking lots and reducing the number of thier customers that park on the street. This costs money and results in the payment of higher taxes, but Mo's and Johnny do this anyway because of their committment to the neighborhood and Wauwatosa. And finally, Mo's is continuously providing sponsorships to community events, including the Blarney Run, making it one of the premier events on the spring calendar. Is Mo's good for Tosa? The answer is a clear and a resounding YES!
it has been allowed to continue on to this level for this long and Now you ask for changes or inputs when all alog the neighborhood has complained,it is some kind of conspiracy,have the Kennedys`moved to tosa?
Mo's is great for Tosa! Every problem that is occuring the owner is trying to fix by creating an extra parking lot.Nice quiet neighborhood?! You live on HWY 100! Get real people.
Mo's is great. I'm all for the increased parking. I don't understand why anyone would object!
A thriving business on one of the busiest intersections in the state should be supported by most in the community. For those living close by isn't the parking lot a solution to the problem? More of the residents in the area should have prevented Mo's from going there in the first place...now in hindsight they complain. Tosa needs more businesses drawing the right people to our community. The northeast side of tosa is a nightmare so why not try to preserve and grow the Southwest side. With Mo's continued success other businesses in the area will improve and add more businesses. With no parking lot it will only get worse.
When Mos is no longer profitable or desireable - as all bars will become because of their cyclic nature, we will still have lost 2 more houses, destroyed a neighborhood and have a lower tax base. His pledge of paying taxes will only last as long as the bar does, and he already has a pile of bankrupt properties behind him. In fact, if I remember correctly, he won't even own these properties - they will be owned by "investors" to probably protect him from his bankrupcies. Short term gain - bad long term policy.
Adding more parking is one thing, but where? On property currently owned and zoned for residential housing? That doesn't seem right. Why doesn't Tosa allow Johnny V to build a 2 level parking structure on the exisitng parking lots? Seems to me this would solve a lot of issues, WITHOUT forcing residents out of their homes just to satisfy a business need. Doesn't Tosa want to keep it's residents AND it's businesses?
I am not in favor of rezoning the area. At All.
The problem with the proposed parking "solution" is that is it not good for the neighborhood, but it is good for the business. More parking spaces means more customers will come because they aren't worried about not finding parking. The increased parking will be full and residents will still be dealing with the excess cars on the street.
I live in the nearby neighborhood, though not on the streets people are parking on for Mo's. I love that Mo's has come to our neighborhood. It brings to the area a good place to eat and drink that doesn't require long driving for me personally. In fact, I can walk there. However, the additional parking is needed and a great idea. Pizza Hut and Ground Round didn't attract as large of a crowd as Mo's, and they ended up out of business. Mo's keeps the surrounding area clean and attractive, provides outdoor seating in the summer, which is not very prevalent in Tosa, and does everything they can to work with the surrounding community (of which I am a part). The parking lot is a great idea, and I welcomed Mo's with open arms!
Property Owner, I didn't say PU was acceptable, but it's hardly an infraction big enough to call in the Tosa SWAT team. Your "drunk driver killing someone" is also a stupid argument. It hasn't happened yet, and the chances of it actually happening are miniscule. Beside, this could happen anywhere - in front of a church, near a school, on any street. If you're still worried, tell your kids to stay in the yard. They'll be fine. So a business moves into your neighborhood - BFD, it happens all over, all the time. They have every right to be there and you have every right to move. From what I've seen, Mo's seems to be a good neighbor.
Yes! It has been a great for Tosa. Not so great for area residents. If quiet was the desired goal, the neighborhood should factor in what businesses are doing well right now. These investors are helping keep cash flow in the 'hood, and they do put up with much more negative press than most would believe. Don't feel sorry for them, I don't. But, they are employing many students, out-placed workers and those trying to supplement what is left of their jobs. Is the bigger picture as important as the small view of some?
How nice and quiet can a neighborhood be when its located at Bluemound and Hwy 100, on of the busiest intersections in the area. There are businesses up and down the street, its a moot point. These neighbors asked for parking years ago and now are mad Mo's has plans for it, make up your mind! Mo's is a great place with a friendly staff and good food, definately good for tosa!!!
After reading the comments below I have to say that I think its silly that neighbors are so annoyed about the employees parking on the streets. If they park in the lot then there is less room for patrons, which means patrons will park on the streets. Something tells me that sober employees would be more respectful of the area than the patrons who apparently urinate on lawns? ( I don't know this to be a fact). So let me get this straight, because of the neighbors female employees have to walk blocks to get their cars at night. What kind, thoughful neighbors.
Say what you want about the owner,but mo's is good for the community. Before mo's the lot was full of weeds. Look at the greater good, not just your own block.
Johnn V is first and foremost a business man, everything he does is with the intent to make more money. He doesn't give a hoot about the families living in what was once a nice place to raise a family, alll of the families are now in his way and in the way of him making more money. Wauwatosa made a huge mistake in allowng him to put up such a huge building without allowing enough parking space. The people that gave up homes to him were there long before he was, and yet the good people who run Tosa let this happen. Our city officials don't seem to care about what is good for the little guy, they , like Johnny V, are all about the money!
Mo's is a rather unique place with an Irish theme. I must admit that I spend quite some time there. It is convenient and pleasant. The food is great. The staff friendly and efficient. I have personally witnessed a wide range of ages and all kinds of people, including some of the most beautiful women in all of Milwaukee, in attendance. Not once since it opened, have I ever witnessed anything but a professional attempt to provide the most pleasant atmosphere possible. They have allowed me to advertise there for a charitable event and even contributed to the silent auction of the event. As far as parking issues are concerned, a larger parking area will help more people to park in the lot, rather than on the street. As far as other problems go, for the many hours I have spent in this establishment, there are very few problems I have ever witnessed. Far less than the problems that occur near where I live, close to a bar that caters to a younger crowd. Of all the restaurants I have known in the Milwaukee area, none of them have staff or waiters/waitresses that try harder to provide an excellent experience. From security at the door, to management, few businesses try as hard. I say let them keep trying to be excellent and have a great and unique entertainment place where people can have an excellent time! Overall, a great place to meet or eat, a real asset to Wauwatosa, Wisconsin.
Yes, it has been good. Everyone wants development unless, of course, they are affected. The same thing happened when Sendik's went in on North Avenue, which is also a wonderful addition to the city.
doesnt anyone ever think its kind of odd for a pub to have the largest parking lot in the city...in an area where drunk driving is already an issue i dont know maybe its just me
they don't need more parking space
Great for Tosa. We need more businesses paying more tax.
The owner bought a Pizza Hut and tore it down for parking. Hello! That cost a lot of money. This business is good for Wauwatosa and the owner cares about this neighborhood. This is a good business and has created jobs in this economy. This should not even be an issue.
excellent buisness , Johnny V. has done nothing but be a good respective neighbor trying to work out all of the kinks of a successful buisness in a neighborhood
I live in the neighborhood and it IS a quiet neighborhood despite being at one of the busiest intersections in the city. Our home is just out of range of the daily goings on at Mo's and are affected only on St. Patrick's day. I do think Mo's is good for the neighborhood and Tosa. Despite the fact that I personally dislike Johnny V, he IS trying to solve the parking issues. Do I feel sorry for the immediate neighbors? Yes. However, you've got to keep in mind that this is what can happen when you live in an area that is zoned both as residential and commercial. Can't really complain because you had to know that this may happen one day. Thirty years ago, when Ground Round was VERY popular (and you could throw peanut shells on the floor), I can remember parking down the street. What's the difference now compared to then? Also, what happened to the deal where Mo's employees were supposed to park at the Wheaton Fransican lot a block away instead of on the street? Or was that just a rumor? If it wasn't a rumor, make them park there or they lose money off their paycheck or lose their jobs. And they can't whine when winter comes. I have to walk 1 1/2 blocks downtown in winter to get to work, no big deal.
I live a few blocks from tosa and yes that street used to be very quiet. It was quiet even when the Ground Round and Pizza Hut were in their prime, Yes it is better than the old Camelot Inn. Camelot was full of crack heads and everyone was glad to see that place go, but mo's creates problems. I am a few blocks north of mo's and I still see cars parked all the way up to Potter. The other real problem in this neighbourhood is Bryant and Stratton College. The people driving out of there blow through the stop signs, have crashed into our mailbox and garbage cans, road rage, accidents, and even once had a young woman, who was a student at the school, blow through the stop sign and get mad and the man she almost hit. She proceeded to chase him in her car down the street and shout racist remarks at him. Calling the school and police gets you no where. The police tells us its private property and there is nothing they can do and the school completely blows us off. We have even tried the alderman and the mayor and have received no help at all. Empire level used to occupy the building and whenever we had problems we called and they resolved the issue immediately, while Bryant and Stratton employees get rude or blow us off. We have plenty of neighbours who are sick of that school but our calls for help go unheard. With an elementary school down the road I am very shocked a child has not got hit. Alderman Ecks spent the days before his death petitioning to keep the school from opening. Also now that Underwood has redone the way parents pick up and drop off their children cars line up almost up to the tracks, thats just asking for a terrible accident.
I apologize I meant to say I live a few blocks from mo's. Also wanted to say Im sad to see the houses get torn down for a bar.
Give me a break....A business is doing great and the people want to put a stop to it, what a joke.....Mo's is good for Tosa!
When ground round was up and running, it was a family joint, and it closed at 11PM every night, and drunks were not spilling out the front doors at closing time. Ground round and pizza hut never were a big problem in all the years they were there.
They need to tear it down. It place full of drunks. We could the land for a hospital or something better.
Really? One business "ruined" a quiet neighborhood? Losing two houses will "ruin" the family atmosphere of the neighborhood? Some of you are talking about Mo's like it's a Brothel/Drug House, catering to adolescents. Wow. Mellow out. The owners of the two proposed lots will get paid for them. It's not like Mo's get's to steal them with the blessing of the aldermen. I do feel bad for one person; the guy who will now live next to the parking lot. For him, if the aldermen approve the re-zoning, the plans should include an attractive concrete wall, high enough for privacy, and thick enough for protection. I also think that Mo's should have to pay for him to have the insulation in his house and the quality of his windows improved so that he is protected from noise.
First: Let's hear from the owners of the houses that are getting their homes taken down. Are they on this forum? My guess is that if they were they wouldn't be complaining as I'm guessing they are being offered quite a nice package to leave an area that, before Johnny V came to town, wasn't very nice in the first place (certainly not an area that most Tosa owners such as myself would call the "jewel" of our city. Second: If there are any OWNERS on this forum who are complaining I'd like to remind you that this business is keeping your property taxes in check. That's right it monetarily directly affects you. Third: Mo's is a well run business. Ground Round and Pizza Hut both served alcohol as well. Fourth: This is Hwy 100 area and if you didn't want businesses such as this in your neighborhood, why on god's earth would you have moved there in the first place? Two cents from a fellow Tosan who is all for Mo's getting the extra parking. And frankly, I don't even go there, but think he shouldn't be receiving all this opposition.
hey Joe, it just so happens that the home owners were NOT made such a great offer at all, it's public record what they sold for, check it out like I did. Those home owners either had to sell or be forced to live with a parking lot next to them. When they bought there homes, they never signed up for that! It's pretty sad that this happened, the Tosa planning board really didn't do it's homework when the plans for Mo's were put in front of them. A place that size with room for over 300 people and under 80 parking spaces, what were they thinking?!?! This is not So much Johnny V's fault as it is the Tosa board.
Hwy 100 and Bluemound Ave. This is one of the biggest, if not the largest intersection in all of Wauwatosa. If you live close to here, you should be aware that traffic from the main intersection might creep into your neighborhood. As far as the claims of public urination? Does this happen often? The answer is probably not. And how do you know there is public urination? Are you monitoring Mo's at 1:00am to look for this type of unruly behavior. Get a life. Mo's offers great food, and they keep their prices above average to keep the "rift raft" out. Neighbors should be lucky that they don't have $1 happy hour or other crazy specials. This would only attract low income patrons. Mo's is a classy place... keep it up.
Mo's is a well-run business in a hugely commercial area. It's the neighborhood that's now out of place in the area. If you don't like Mo's, don't eat there. If you don't like Johnny V., don't give him your business. But a dislike for a restaurant or person doesn't give you the right to run it out of town. If you don't like the neighborhood, you weren't paying attention during the past 15 years that commercial development sprouted up around you with the blessing of YOUR elected officials. Likewise, if you move to the neighborhood adjacent to MO's in the past couple of years, you were delusional if you thought you were moving to a nice, quiet family area. Nuf said.
No one has brought up this question: What is the capacity of Mo's? How often does the fire department come in, at night on the weekends, and make sure they are not over capacity? More parking means more patrons. When will this end? Mo's built in the wrong spot, plain and simple.
I live in the area and can tell you that Mo's is quite the nuisance. The traffic and parking issues are a lot of it. We are forever having people turning around in our driveway - I can't tell you how many times my kids or our cars parked in the driveway have almost gotten hit by rude people using our drive as a turn-around. We're tempted to put spikes in the drive!! We also can never get to the mailbox in the winter because people park in front of it and frequently they park so that we can't get into the driveway. Patrons of Mo's beep their car alarms and yell back and forth to each other at all hours of the night and early morning. These people who go to Mo's are extremely rude. Now as a solution to these things they're wanting to purchase the homes of some elderly neighbors and force them out to some place unfamiliar to them. The neighbors who remain have to deal with having a parking lot and all that entails right at their back door. This was not there when they purchased their homes. Putting in a 2 story parking structure would make much more sense for the neighbor hood, but I'm sure Johnie V doesn't want the expense. A larger lot taking over the homes of our neighbors NO - a two story lot to allow more parking at the current site - YES. The other option would be to purchase the business building immediately to the north of Mo's and convert that space into a two story lot. At least then they won't be forcing neighbors out of the neighborhood that they've lived in for 50+ years.
Mo's is sending emails to campaign for support from NON-residents. I do not believe non-residents should be able to voice an opinion. Also, does it matter how many times an indecent exposure incident occurs? I believe once is enough. Urinating in public is a crime. How would any of those non-residents feel if strangers were in their neighborhood and performing these acts - and when there are children living nearby.
MO's should have looked a bit "deeper" before they opened. Remeber these residents have been there alot longer they have have and they had "no choice" in the matter of Mo's "moving" in. Why must these resident give up their homes so some can make "more" money than they are willign to "pay off" these residents. SHAME ON MO'S!!!!
Instead of spending money on two homes and demolishing them to build a second parking lot, maybe Mo's should have considered a parking structure on the already commercially zoned lot purchased from Pizza Hut. This would leave the residential neighborhood in tact and increased the parking spaces. By rezoning the two homes the City is assuming that Mo's will survive the future and always be there. However if they fail and the land is now zoned commercial what can the neighbors expect to be approved in the years to come. Mo's is not necessarily going to go on forever. At least the parking structure would provide a higher tax base than an open parking lot and probably more than the offered continued payment of two residential property taxes. Mo's is a great place and a draw for the whole Milwaukee metro community. But the immediate neighbors should not be made to suffer for Mo's success.
Gotta Love Mo's! As a long time resident of Wauwatosa, and someone that lives within walking distance of Mo’s, I for one, am very thankful that we have not only a thriving business in the area, but also a great place to hang out - with friends and/or family! Get real people - we are not talking about some seedy bar - this is Mo's - a nice restaurant/pub - with great atmosphere! (To echo the sentiment of other posters – Mo’s is much better than having an empty parking lot, or a closed down Ground Round, or even worse, the old Camelot Inn – or has your memory failed you?) Homeowners that live in the immediate area had a choice when they purchased their homes - the zoning in that area has been the same for years - Commercial and Residential. Stop complaining, and be happy that Tosa has such a successful business, helping us pay taxes in Tosa. Thank you Mo's!
I frequent Mo's about once a month, but I always try to see both sides of the story. If I lived in that neighborhood, it would drive me crazy to have people parking their cars in front of my home. I used to live on Menomonee River Parkway and this happened frequently. I moved. It would seem that by adding more parking, that would cut down on the street parking in the neighborhood thus cutting down on noise, disturbances, etc. I certainly would prefer to park in a well-lit lot vs. down a dark street. I don't understand how people can say that all Johnny V. cares about is money. He is, obviously, a businessman. But if all he cared about was money, he would not be trying to build these lots or keep his establishment looking as attractive as it does. He is trying to be a good neighbor. Support him.
I really like Mo's they could use more parking, there is greenspace around the front of the building on Bluemound Road how come they can't covert that into parking? It would help.
If I am not mistaken, Mo's originally wanted a 2-story parking structure, but the city denied that.








Mo's is good for tosa